[bdangubic]

it is a simple stance - if you have a product that is used by hundreds of millions of people ad monetization strategy will be found cause there are people a lot smarter than you and me that will get it done. here’s intellectual challenge - find a business with comparable number of users to openai which is not swimming in ad revenue - one will do

[flextheruler]

A counterpoint is that there are many products with significant usage that fail or never attempt advertising monetization. They just increase the cost of the product.

[satvikpendem]

Such as?

[flextheruler]

I apologize, but I thought it was self-evident. The majority of enterprise professional software.

I would argue that comparing OpenAI to social media companies is an awful comparison. A much better comparison would be to Microsoft Office.

[satvikpendem]

I thought we were talking about search or social media companies failing to capitalize on advertising which I haven't seen. OpenAI is much closer to Google than it is to Office.

[flextheruler]

I could see that argument, but the economics of the two are so different. I just don't see how using an LLM can be sustainable for search, but could see it as an enterprise model.

[satvikpendem]

What do you mean not sustainable for search? OpenAI is eating Google's lunch forcing them to put in LLMs on Google. I personally don't use traditional search anymore, it's all through LLMs. Meanwhile everyone hates Microsoft Office LLMs.

[harmonic18374]

Snapchat

[bdangubic]

Total Quarterly Revenue (Q4 2024): $1.55 billion in total revenue, with $1.41 billion coming from advertising

Basically all their revenue is ad revenue and not too bad