[pavlov]

If you’re willing to spend a few lives, you can do that much cheaper than Artemis which aims to be perfectly safe but doesn’t actually succeed.

[themusicgod1]

> aims to be perfectly safe

obviously that isn't true -- it aims to be relatively safe

...but in any case - it aims to bring humanity to the moon. That's the aim. Keep your eye on the prize.

[themusicgod1]

from one of the artemis astronauts on livestream:

"It is very risky, and we are intimately [aware] of that risk"

ie It's not perfectly safe, and the astronauts are well aware of this fact.

[themusicgod1]

astronaut #2

"do what scares you...that's why I'm [on artemis]"

clearly very risk-aware.