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by ahhhhnoooo 71 days ago
No clue why you are getting downvoted. It's well documented that women earn less. It's well documented that children are expensive. It's well documented that social safety nets are inadequate to assist in raising a child.

You've literally just stated some objective facts and suggested we fix some of those challenges.

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I assume they are getting down voted because their statement is emotional and seemingly unsupported (seems to ignore child support). After accounting for child support, they should have similar resources. We can further investigate this when comparing to intact families - single parents of either sex have wealth gaps with intact families, yet outcomes in single father families tend to be close to the outcomes of the intact families. We would probably need more research into the topic to find concrete causes, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in that.
I would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife.

So in avg man earn more and have more carerse because they do not stay at home for the children.

Also guess who normally gets custody? Yeah the mother. So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. This skews the data massivly.

So as long as we are not experts here but a group of men earning above avg, we might not stereotype and dismiss genders.

"I would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife."

That depends on the state, especially looking at after tax income due to the tax treatment on both sides.

"So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. "

I agree there could be bias there. I think if we looked at households with deceased parents and then controlled for income, that would present a good elimination of bias.

There should be a cap in all states of child support. And independent of this, the person with a lot more income can do things the other person can't like getting a nani.

And lets be honest here: A single father is so rare that this alone raises eyebrows and questions. Ironically more like positive reactions and dismissive ones against the woman.

Most states do not have a cap.

I don't agree that the rarity may present bias.

Independent of a cap, you don't pay 100% of your salary you pay a percentage. So at the end of they day, the afther still has more money left.

In texas there is a cap at $11.700 which will be $2k. Plenty of money left on the father side to provide better to the child.

And if you don't agree on the bias thing, how about you also bring up anything which supports your argument? Thats how an argument works.

Also you do know that there are 80% single mothers vs. 20% single fathers? 1970 it was btw. only 1%

If a man doesn't want to care for a kid, he doesn't has to while a mother has to. which elads to a wider spectrum of woman having to care for a kid.

Funny enough, i can't ven find a proper source for kids growing up better with a single father.

But i found this: "Children in single-father families exhibit worse behavior, and are slightly disadvantaged in terms of cognitive skills compared with children living with a single mother (Downey, Ainsworth-Darnell, and Dufur 1998)."

Money isn't the only factor of why the single fathers produce better outcomes for their children.
Show your work, provide a source.
you bring an interesting perspective
Thanks, appreciate it.
Ah yes other factors of misogynistics like potential men seeing a single mother as an issue why potential woman might not.

Btw. its also a lot harder for man to get the sole custody which means that only the most motivated and well suited men even achieve this probably also with an expensive lawyer.