[yongjik]

The threat of Japanese people all waging guerrilla warfare was considered real enough that the US decided to keep the Japanese Emperor as figurehead (even though the US had enough power to sentence or even execute him for war crimes), just so that the Emperor could order his people to surrender and obey US forces.

Something the current US regime might have forgotten.

[petre]

> Something the current US regime might have forgotten.

Nah, it wouldn't have worked with Khamenei after a few decades of destroy America and Israel rhetoric. It was a good decision to eliminate him and most of Iran's hardliner senior leadership. Now maybe they can make a "deal" with whoever they're replaced with, but I doubt it. The trouble was going all in without a clear plan. Or maybe they have one but they keep it to themselves?

[watwut]

First, new leadership is MORE hardline.

Second, Khamenei in fact presided over Iran who exercised restrain in their responses to attacks and was willing to enter international agreements. And followed them to reasonable level. They did cause destabilization by proxis, they were still regime they were. But like, what Iran regime learned was that restraint makes them look weak and makes them be bombed every couple of months. And that negotiation and international agreements mean nothing.

Third, frankly, as evil regime was, American history and role in Iran was destructive one. You cant take down elected president, put cruel monarchy in power and then play victim when revolution happens. And yes, who ends up winning bloody revolution does not tend to be nice pro-democratic side either. It tends to be the side willing to kill and risk more.

[expedition32]

The real problem here is Israel.

The zionists do not want an economically prosperous Iran. They actually want Iran to descend into civil war and starvation. Also the reason why Europeans hate this war- we all know were the refugees will end up.

[flyinglizard]

Maybe it's related to the fact that every missile, drone, bullet or bomb used to attack Israel over the past two decades came from, was paid by, and operated in behalf of Iran.

[srean]

Had Israel treated Palestinians better and remained within their territorial limits afforded by UN that may not have come to pass. Recall Iran was one of the very few ME countries that supported the UN charter for creation of Israel. Israel then became the long arm of the forces that wanted to turn Iran into a vassal. Not surprised why they did not like it much.

[flyinglizard]

Until the Islamic revolution Israel and Iran were the best friends in the Middle East, long after Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza (1967 vs 1979). It's not the Palestinians that are the issue here, rather an excuse by Iran to constantly attack Israel and rally their population around a cause.

[watwut]

At this point, Israel does not get to play victim anymore. It was not an innocent victim for a long time now. You dont really get to misplace and kill as many people and expect they will be nice to you back.

And that includes killings of journalists and doctors. That includes tolerance and celebration of settlers violence ... or the fact that settlers should not even be a thing.

Israel is not the only one engaging in those, Saudi and UAE and murderous too. But, like, common, most of what Israel does is ethical cleansing, expansion and intentional destabilization of other countries.

[flyinglizard]

Israel is not a victim. It's a winner. It completely decimated the Iranian plan of encircling it with violent radicalized proxies, despite that plan being decades and many billions of dollars in the making. It is a country that since October 7th has decided that enough is enough and just dismantled its enemies one by one.

The countries Israel fight are declared enemies. Israel is a very convenient ally to countries that struck peace with it, but it's a really nasty enemy to have for those who have not.

[Hikikomori]

Just rhetoric coming from nowhere?