[beerandt]

This is more preemptive I suspect- 'they' have been reclassifying different species trying to get a bona-fide Gulf endangered one to use against exploration and production. Especially that one whale subspecies.

This kills that on multiple fronts.

[renewiltord]

The snail darter play. Makes sense.

[ZeroGravitas]

I guess the whole Whales killed by wind turbines thing turned out to be concern trolling then. What a surprise!

> Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim that wind turbines kill whales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66928305

[beerandt]

No- making a fake endangered species to shut down operations that don't actually harm the species (endangered or not)...

Is hardly the same as objecting to activities that distress pretty much all animals in the vicinity long term.

[ben_w]

> Is hardly the same as objecting to activities that distress pretty much all animals in the vicinity long term.

A big thing which distresses pretty much all animals in the vicinity is "shipping".

One other specific animal harm that wind farm get blamed for is bird deaths. Know what is responsible for more bird deaths? Skyscrapers.

The only way to not harm the environment (with current science) is a choice which is unsustainable, because the choice requires everyone everywhere to not only agree now but forever, and "forever" is really hard because anyone defecting from "degrowth" is necessarily stronger for that defection.

So yes, objecting to wind turbines on these grounds is absolutely concern trolling.