[p1necone]

I burn through the entire 5 hour limit in one or two "implement the feature outlined in this doc" requests with claude pro in a not even huge codebase (low tens of thousands of loc). If there were any reasonable alternatives I wouldn't even consider using it, but sonnet 4.6 (and presumably opus 4.6 - I don't use it as sonnet is faster and more than good enough) is the only model I've used that actually makes good decisions in complex codebases - anything else just gets stuck in the weeds and produces either non working code or tech debt (after churning for a long time).

I have seen more than one comment on this thread mentioning kimi though - I'll have to test it out.

qwen3-coder-next has been surprisingly capable as a local model too - needs to be used to make small changes where you know exactly what the final code should look like rather than implementing whole features, but it is free (except for the power bill).

[jazoom]

I haven't found Kimi to be all that good, but GLM 5.1 I find to be better than Opus 4.6 most of the time in web dev. Opus' only advantage is it's a bit faster. If you can't access GLM 5.1 (not fully released yet) try 5.0. It was better than Opus sometimes too.

I have a GLM Code subscription and it lasts much longer than Claude Code.

I use Pi agent so I use all agents in the same harness.

[dzhiurgis]

I’ve dumped claude few months ago for gemini. Maybe my problems are too trivial, but it’s same if not better with added benefit of being much faster. I’d say 95% of my work (20-30hrs per week) is done by it and I spend less than $50 per month.

[testfrequency]

What stack do you work on ooc?

I’ve been tempted to move my Gemini plan up to a higher plan and play around more with the Gemini cli - as I seriously live the Gemini chat for most everything. Claude is lazy af and is always pulling stale data, or not checking resources entirely. I literally have a Gemini mcp that I force close to use half the time when it’s lost, and Gemini nails it every single time.

I’m on a Claude max 20x plan right now, and I seriously can’t imagine not having it around anymore but Gemini seems to always have my back on actual current data and less hallucinations.

[dzhiurgis]

I do Salesforce - backend and frontend using Webstorm and Junie (and Salesforce specific plugins). It understands symbol table and can connect to Salesforce via MCP server for various things (retrieve missing metadata, create users, deploy, etc).

Funnily Junie detects when Gemini is overloaded (less and less often now) and switches to default model (openai). This is when you start thinking - why this code is so terrible, whats going on?

[testfrequency]

(apologies for all the typos in my original message)

That makes sense. Web is really where so many of these agents shine, I’m envious. I also imagine the huge context window for Gemini is a huge help with Salesforce work. I do iOS dev, so I have long felt trapped to Claude as it’s really the only agent that understands Xcode/Swift well enough for refactors and architecture. I just get so frustrated by Claude’s laziness and out of date information.

I honestly completely forgot Junie existed…I’m very tempted to see how far I can push it for iOS dev now…I’m sure Xcode is going to hate me even more ha.

[hirvi74]

That is wild to me. On Claude Pro, I have never hit the limit, and I use Claude every day.