[HomeDeLaPot]

You want the government to force employers to provide a social safety net rather than the government providing it directly?

The problem isn't that people can be fired, it's that their food, housing, and medical care are all dependent on or provided through their employer.

[wiseowise]

> A job today isn’t (*and shouldn’t be*) any guarantee of a job tomorrow.

This is nonsense and shouldn’t be normalized.

[randomNumber7]

In germany you have the opposite and it is also nonsense.

You have to work with people that do literally nothing (usefull to the goal of the company) and they can't be fired.

Companies are afraid to hire. Young people only get short therm contracts. If a company needs to cut jobs it has to keep employees with children over the others.

What society will be more productive?

[wiseowise]

What makes you think that productivity is the most important goal? I’ll take Germany way over Silicon Valley bullshit any time of the day.

[randomNumber7]

You have actually more to give if you are more productive.

Germany acts like money grows on trees. Reality will come and hit hard.

[wiseowise]

> Reality will come and hit hard.

Like it hit Block and Oracle workers already?

[randomNumber7]

A bit harder unfotunately.

Less than 20 million people in germany pay more taxes than they get money from the government (if you consider state employees as getting money from the government). With a population of over 80 million.

Think about what happens if that is not financially viable anymore.

[sneak]

The ability to fire people without notice is not Silicon Valley bullshit - it is how the labor market works in almost all places in the entire world.

It is ridiculous to think that either party to an employment relationship should be forced to participate longer than they wish to.

[sneak]

Normalized? It’s how things work everywhere. The burden of proof is on you to specify why you think this is “nonsense” and on what basis you justify violatiny the consent of one of the parties.