[gorjusborg]

It's very amusing to me that you bring up IBM in a discussion of the value of Oracle.

I came here to say that if you want to understand Oracle's value, think IBM with less history.

[DrJokepu]

Kind of, but there are some subtle differences in my opinion. Oracle is top-to-bottom evil, whose business model basically boils down to screwing over their clients and everyone else at every possible opportunity, comparable to the likes of McKinsey or Accenture.

IBM is a bit more nuanced. My wife grew up in an IBM town and a lot of her family and her friends’ families used to work there in the 70s and 80s. People, especially the engineers, used to take pride in their work there.

[RankingMember]

I think of IBM and GE as being cut from the same cloth back then- they treated their people well and dominated their markets.

[soperj]

Didn't they famously help both the Nazis and Apartheid South Africa?

[20after4]

Yes. Leased IBM equipment was a critical infrastructure component of the holocaust.