[wiseowise]

From my experience it is futile to ask for any meaningful salary changes. Bands are usually fixed. Unless you're severely underpaid, they won't increase your salary by much. There are only two ways to increase your salary: leave for bigger salary, or threaten to leave and stay for bigger salary.

[mikeyspikey]

yeah this is exactly it - 'oh we cannot raise you as we have to be fair to everyone else becuz you are at the higher end of the band, unless we promote you but we wont' - sometimes its equality vs merit, no matter how well you do, its still discretionary unless you are in a place where there is a formula, like sales.