[theshrike79]

Framework Desktop is the closest one with the MAX 385/395 chip. It's mostly about the memory being fast enough rather than just CPU/GPU oomph.

The 64GB model is 2240€ base and the 128GB is 3069€ base + all the stuff you need to add to make it an actual computer.

As a comparison the 64GB Mac Mini is 2499€ here and a 128GB Mac Studio is 4274€.

[eigenspace]

Note though that that a MAX 395 has half the memory bandwidth of a M4 Max chip, and the memory bandwidth is going to be the biggest limiting factor, so you'll likely be getting around half the tokens/second with that Framework Desktop.

[theshrike79]

There's a reason why it's cheaper than the Mac equivalent and it's not all because of Apple's premium pricing =)

But it's still the easiest and cleanest way to get decent local AI speeds on a non-Mac.