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by AnimalMuppet 77 days ago
And then what? The spoils system? Rampant incompetence?

And, we have to get rid of it because it's not in the Constitution? You know what else isn't in the Constitution? DHS. The IRS. ICE. An enormous number of other agencies.

The Constitution gives very little guidance on the Executive Branch, other than the President and Vice President. That does not mean that hiring people in federal agencies is unconstitutional! It just means that the Constitution is silent on the topic, neither requiring nor prohibiting very much.
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pandaman 77 days ago
Then back to the system defined in the Constitution, it gives enough guidance. If you think the President is not enough for the Executive - amend the Constitution, used to be enough for ~200 years though.
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AnimalMuppet 77 days ago
The Constitution does not define a civil service system. You seem to interpret that as saying that any system is unconstitutional until the Constitution is amended to define one. That is... let's just call it "very much a minority interpretation".

We are not going to either amend the Constitution nor abolish the civil service just because some pseudonymous online account says we should.

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pandaman 77 days ago
The Constitution defines just three branches of power, if the "civil service system" has a power and is not one of the branches then it unconstitutional by common sense and elementary logic. And this "civil servant system" evidentially has power and is not a part of either of the three branches (which are all enumerated in the Constitution) ergo it's an unconstitutional junta.

>We are not going to either amend the Constitution nor abolish the civil service just because some pseudonymous online account says we should.

Did not you participate in the mass crying out on this very site when DOGE had been firing the "civil servants"?

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guelo 77 days ago
The constitution says the president must "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". That means hiring people to enforce the laws, that's the civil servant system.
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pandaman 76 days ago
That means the whole Executive branch is the president and if he can delegate his power to some other people he also should be able to revoke the delegation and fire those people, which is not the case now. The president is semi-successful in firing these "servants" and some judges insist that it's illegal.
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AnimalMuppet 76 days ago
It's illegal because of the Civil Service Act, not because of the Constitution.
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donkeybeer 77 days ago
Why didn't you comment on the other agencies mentioned? A simple yes or no would be enough.
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