[nickphx]

Why wpuld anyone want to "learn" how to use some non-deterministic black box of bullshit that is frequently wrong? When you get different output fkr the same input, how do you learn? How is that beneficial? Why would you waste your time learning something that is frequently changing at the whims of some greedy third party? No thanks.

[simonw]

One of the things you can learn is how to get consistently useful results out of it despite it being a non-deterministic black box.

[ForHackernews]

Because you will soon be working for it unless you learn to make it work for you.

[i_love_retros]

It's fucking insane that we all have to pay rent every month to an AI company just to keep doing our jobs.

[sidrag22]

there is certainly a future where this isn't the case. Learning how to use AI and use it in your workflows will likely for sure be a part of any serious dev's future, but being beholden to a data center does not seem to reflect reality. Consider all the 5m-8m models and how powerful they are today compared to what the best models did 2 years ago. If you want to stay absolute bleeding edge model wise, sure you'll be stuck at a data center for some time...

Why isn't this just kinda seen as a repeat of the original birth of computers? Consider the IBM 350 (3.5mb) rented in the 50s for thousands per month. Now I have a drawer filled with SD cards that go up to 128gb that i cant even give away.

[nice_byte]

you literally don't have to. you can literally just keep doing your job the way that you always have.

[i_love_retros]

I probably won't have a job for much longer if I do that, unfortunately

[nice_byte]

I don't think that is true.

[i_love_retros]

To be clear I think AI coding agents are massively over hyped and turn code bases into unmaintainable buggy messes... I hate them.

But "leadership" everywhere has AI psychosis and at my company I expect I'd eventually be let go if I refused to use it.

[nickphx]

hahaha fuck that. speak for yourself man.