[piker]

> LLMs are the new reality, they are not going to go away

That's the conventional wisdom, but it isn't a given. A lot of financial wizardry is taking place to prop up the best of these things, and even their most ardent proponents are starting to recognize their futility once a certain complexity level is reached. The open weight models are the stalking horse that gives this proposition the most legs, but it's not given that Anthropic and OpenAI exist as anything more than shells of their current selves in 5 years.

[vetler]

But LLMs themselves are literally not going away, I think that's the point. Once a model is trained and let out into the open for free download, it's there, and can be used by anyone - and it's only going to get cheaper and easier.

[jofzar]

Yeah like Kimi is good enough, if there was some kind of LLM fire and all the closed source models suddenly burnt down and could never be remade, Kimi 2.5 is already good enough forever.

Good enough is probably redundant, it's amazing compared to last year's models