[tovej]

I'm not sure you're aware, but this is a very American view of things. A very skewed one. Quite a childish one too. Bit of irony there.

There is a guaranteed pension where I live, it's part of the social contract [1]. And healthcare insurance is much more expensive than public healthcare (both for society and the individual).

[1] https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pensions/nation...

Good luck living in your capitalist free market paradise. I hope your government stops treating your companies like people and your people like cattle.

[WalterBright]

> Quite a childish one too.

Self-reliance is adultish, not childish.

[tovej]

Expecting that everyone in society should be self-reliant, and that resources should not be managed socially is naive. It's a maximally inefficient and cruel way to organize society.

[WalterBright]

I didn't say "everyone".

[tovej]

No, but you did say every adult. That's what I meant by everyone.

[WalterBright]

I didn't say "every" either.

[tovej]

You say adults should be self-reliant. That's a categorical statement. That means it should apply to "every" adult.

Do you want to continue to play pedantic whack-a-mole? I can go on forever.