[donkeybeer]

>So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict.

Hamas killed a few Israelis, that was perfectly fine reasoning for starting a genocidal military campaign against Palestine as a whole so I am not sure why that argument is a problem for you. Iran hasn't even directly attacked Israel the first shot, and they got invaded. So I don't see a problem if Irgun were a jewish milita, to say israel/jews started it.

[theonething]

> Hamas killed a few Israelis

1200 is not a few. They also raped, tortured, kidnapped Israeli civilians including children.

The words you use to downplay this atrocity shows me what kind of person you are.

[donkeybeer]

I said few not as a number but to mean (srael has no problems with genociding an entire population just for a few attackers so why should for example Israel have a problem with others doing the same to it?

[theonething]

The problem with your logic (or lack thereof) is Hamas attacked first and Israel responded. And if Israel really wanted to "genocide" the Palestinians, they could have easily bombed the whole place to hell. But they didn't. They warned civilians beforehand and directed them to southern areas where they wouldn't be bombed.

[donkeybeer]

I said few not as anumber but to mean (srael has no problems with genociding an entire population just for a few attackers so why should for example Israel have a problem with others doing the same to it?

[theonething]

> So I don't see a problem if Irgun were a jewish milita, to say israel/jews started it.

Because the Irgun attack on the Hotel was an attack against Britain, not the Arabs. So you are saying Jews started the war against the Arabs by attacking Britain. How is that even close to being logical?

And since you so conveniently ignored my citations on instances of Arab attacks against Israel that were well before this Hotel incident (happened in 1946) that you like repeatedly cite as the proof of "who started this shit", I'll list them again.

The Battle of Tel Hai (March 1920): Often cited as the first military confrontation between Arab and Jewish forces. It involved a clash between a Palestinian Arab militia and Jewish defenders of the Tel Hai settlement. It started when a Shiite Arab militia and local Bedouin, led by Kamal al-Hussein, entered the Jewish settlement of Tel Hai.

The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots: In April 1920, Arab residents attacked Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem during a religious procession.

The 1921 Jaffa Riots: This started as a scuffle between two different Jewish groups. Arab onlookers mistook it as an attack against Arabs and started attacking Jews.

"Dozens of British, Arab, and Jewish witnesses all reported that Arab men bearing clubs, knives, swords, and some pistols broke into Jewish buildings and murdered their inhabitants, while women followed to loot. They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921)

And they are still doing that today.

The 1929 Hebron Massacre: Prompted by rumors that Jews intended to seize the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Arab mobs killed 67 Jews in Hebron.

The violent, blood thirsty Arabs started this shit.

[donkeybeer]

Yes and why were these ingrates committing terrorist attacks against the very country that gifted its own lands to them? What does it say about Israels founders character?

You said Irgun were declared terrorists so I find it strange that the Israel doesn't seem to have ant plaques or monuments to a great British hero who eliminated 5 terrorists.

[theonething]

Your original assertion was Jews "started this shit". They didn't. Arabs did.

[donkeybeer]

Jews other than those native to the area shouldn't have been there in the first place, so they in fact started shit by terrorizing and forcibly replacing peoples already living there. They are such insane ingrates they bombed and terrorized the very country who granted them land for free. Israelis love hating on Arabs who are the real semites instead of their own racial brothers who genocided them in Europe and then cry "antisemitism" and "blood libel" at anything and everything. The Israeli government quite blatantly interferes in elections in Western countries and supports far right even some white nationalist parties. They'd gladly support people close to actual nazis and will hate actual semitic peoples.