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by eviks 123 days ago
Doesn't seem like it if you can waste time learning all the keybinds just because you switched an editor, but also how does "can't do things since there are no plugins yet" rank higher vs "sometimes stops working" in importance?
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g947o 123 days ago
It took me about 10 min to learn the keybindings. It does take longer to get familiar and efficient with them, but I wasn't a Vim master to begin with. (I can navigate efficiently and am proficient with a few combinations that I use the most, but that's about it.)

> "can't do things since there are no plugins yet"

Depending on what I am doing, I will probably go back to VSCode to get things done. Terminal editors are nice, but VSCode's extension ecosystem and usability is unmatched. I speak of that as someone who has spent hundreds of hours developing VSCode extensions. For me, "can't do things" is not (necessarily) a reason to set up Neovim plugins. It means I should figure out 1) if that's something I need to do regularly 2) If so, what's the best way to get it done.

(I am very well aware of what you can do with vim/Neovim plugins, just like zsh and tmux etc. Not spending time hand writing my config or setting up my plugins is an intentional choice. I like to start with a commonly used setup, discover pain points and bottlenecks, and then optimize or find some other solutions.)

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eviks 122 days ago
> 10 min to learn the keybindings. It does take longer to get familiar and efficient

So not the red-herringly 10 min (and there are hundreds of keybinds, so the initial learning wasn't 10 min either)

> like to start with a commonly used setup, discover pain points and bottlenecks, and then optimize or find some other solutions.)

Which you've presumably already done at least twice with vim and VSCode, so again it's just a waste of time to start from scratch yet again instead of configuring for the things you know you need

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goosejuice 122 days ago
No-one started as a vim master.

Your arguments here are valid, for a particular kind of person who values a particular kind of workflow.

Some of us would rather use vi than vscode. If you take away the plugin ecosystem, the core value is still there.

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