[foz]

> History will remember the entire Ruby industry as a series of compounding failures.

This is a bit dramatic. Despite its faults, the language and community around it have been quite a success story. It's had a huge and positive influence on the web development world.

[knowtheory]

It's also worth rebutting douchebag trolling with the Ruby community's actual merits.

The Ruby community, really really cares about developer tooling and teaching others. Ruby is also one of the nice places where object oriented programming touches metaprogramming.

Don't forget that a lot of sysadmin work is done in Ruby now. Both Puppet and Chef are written in Ruby, and that Github and Heroku both came up out of the Ruby community.

[pyrotechnick]

argumentum ad novitam

[knowtheory]

It's time to pack up and go home if you are going to straw man Github and Heroku as being popular merely because they are novelties or fads.

[pyrotechnick]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_management_sof...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cloud_platforms

[nicholassmith]

You can throw wikipedia links to try justify an argument ("hey, look at how many other projects there are!"), but GitHub and Heroku both leverage RoR heavily and both are incredibly large, successful products. Having competitors does not a failure make.

[pyrotechnick]

Q.E.D.