[otabdeveloper4]

It's already possible. Post-training is vastly more important than model size. (There's bigtime diminishing returns with increasing model size.)

[plagiarist]

Is there a size cutoff you would say where diminishing returns really kick in?

My experience doesn't disagree, at least. I've been using Qwen for coding locally a bit. It is much better than I thought it would be. But also still falls short in some obvious ways compared to the frontiers.

[otabdeveloper4]

> Is there a size cutoff you would say where diminishing returns really kick in?

No idea yet. But also it's obvious that making LLMs without MoE is stupid.