[wortelefant]

Yes, solar and wind has produced a few percents more in total, after years of subsidies with >18 Billion Euro tax subsidies yearly. But we still need gas and coal plants, because wind and solar fail to produce when energy is needed. We had 573 hours of negative prices in 2025 https://www.enoplan.de/strommarkt-2025-573-stunden-mit-negat...

In summary, we still need fossil fuels, and we have high prices, and we need to pay other countries to get rid of the waste electricity. This is just an utter failure from any economic or climate perspective. Just think of all the clean energy we could export - when it is needed - with nuclear plants still intact. We could have helped austria and poland to reduce their fossil footprint as well!

[atopal]

I was just correcting your numbers, but I also want to point out that power generated from solar has grown more than 30% in just two years and I think it's uncontroversial that we are in the early stages of the s curve for adoption. Negative prices are obviously an arbitrage opportunity that Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS) are in the process of capitalizing on.

[CalRobert]

Fossil fuel plants are also subsidized, in part by health spending.