[Imustaskforhelp]

Someone had submitted the same article and I was reading that article and I was in complete and utter shock and then I reloaded the hackernews page and I saw the post flagged.

I really don't know/wish to know what your ideology is, but why this struck my mind was the imagination that this could've been my kid or this can be your kid, to whoever is reading this within wars and the brutality of this.

I just can't out of good faith, let that discussion be ended, it is worth talking and worth submitting again. I have also archived the web page on archive.org

"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind"

I just can't help but think, have we already lost mankind/(humanity?) in cases like these.

I wish for everyone to stay safe and hopefully, this time around, this post doesn't get flagged.

Have a nice day.

[mhb]

Thanks for your service in alerting us to this unsubstantiated and terrible incident. Are you going to make a new submission for each of the tens of thousands of Iranians killed or tortured by their own government? Where are your posts for the undisputed Hamas atrocities which instigated all of this? Are these not sufficiently traumatizing to insist that they be brought to the attention of the readers in this inappropriate forum? But now we should all just get along?

[Imustaskforhelp]

> Are you going to make a new submission for each of the tens of thousands of Iranians killed or tortured by their own government

Please go read my comments on Iranian regime. I have Iranian friends online and they all have spoken highly badly of Iranian regime.

You know that the people of Iran are the most haters of their own regime, because its their freedom which gets infringed upon, when you and I talk on a forum of freedom. They were literally protesting.

but the same innocent people are also being bombed by USA and Israel (Please refer to the post about Iranian Schools with girls getting bombed) and no, that isn't disputed by anybody.

So, to me, who has both Israeli and Iranian Friends. Do you really want to know what I believe?

I believe that this is an extreme blunder from the USA/Israeli Side to wage this war. They could've done this a month ago when protests were happening and the people of Iran would be on their side but they have essentially just made the nation get a common-enemy as innocents die as well.

And even my Israeli/Jewish and US friends are agreeing on me that this war has been a massive blunder. The straight of hormuz which was previously opened has now effectively given Iranian regime a tax on 20% of oil supply with a toll booth effectively.

If you want boots on the ground, its gonna be a forever war & innocents will die as well, just as they did in the last middle-east wars. Nearly nobody I know wants yet another Middle east war.

Iran was weakening by itself with protests from the people actually living inside. Either US/Israel had the tiny window during that to attack but as soon as the protests were brutally crushed, then launching a month after protests ended has led to this Iran war disaster.

Either way, Innocent lives of Iran are dying. I have met friends in my life of Iranian descent online who are now taken offline because of the war, I sometimes wonder if they are even alive or not, the same way during protests, I hate both their regime and Israel/US for this war and the way they are handling this war with innocents being killed, and no, once again, it has been confirmed in nearly all media reports that one finds where the natural conclusion is that, yes Innocent people are dying because of this war and this is what I am against.

I am against wars, period. I am not biased towards any one side because I somehow like the islamist theocratic regime, Again read my comments on hackernews or even on this thread. I and my nation have been on the opposing side of an Islamist extremism attack (India) and I was shook to my core.

But that doesn't mean that all muslims are bad or would not make me sad if a muslim boy is hurt, it hurts me equally as much as if it might hurt a boy of my own community.

Once again, there are good muslims and bad muslims, good jews and bad jews, good hindus and bad hindus.

At some point, there are good people and bad people and religion doesn't become a point of bias in my line of thinking.

Once again, please read my messages/learn a bit about me, if you wish to respond to me, I would really appreciate it.

Have a nice day.

[mhb]

I've read what you've written. I agree with some of it. There are many things which were done as ineptly as you'd expect from the current US government. Nonetheless, a thing worth doing is often worth doing badly.

It would have been better to have done this at the time of the initial Iranian protests. Unfortunately it takes time for the US to move all its hardware into place. If the US had proceeded to "do something" at that time and things didn't go well, the same people who are saying that now is too late would be saying that we should have been more prepared before acting.

It is disingenuous to say that the Iranian people are being bombed by the US and Israel. Surely you understand what the goals of the war are. Or maybe you don't since you bring up the girls' school as if that was intentional and not a mistake. Both the US and Israel would be thrilled if only the evil rulers of Iran could be eliminated with no innocent people being hurt.

People are wringing their hands about the economic fallout from the Iranian theocracy's control of the Strait. Maybe consider how much more effective that control would be if they were allowed to finish developing their nuclear weapons.

One thing I don't understand is why you thought it was important to amplify this particular incident by posting it here. You write as if you seek a cooperative solution yet you were seemingly unaware how incendiary and divisive posting that story would be. You also mention the girls' school yet again. Saying you're "against wars" is insipid. Everyone is against wars except the jihadists. Your protestations notwithstanding and your portrayal of yourself as some kind of pacifist, the things you have posted and have written here demonstrate that you are biased towards one side.

[Imustaskforhelp]

> People are wringing their hands about the economic fallout from the Iranian theocracy's control of the Strait. Maybe consider how much more effective that control would be if they were allowed to finish developing their nuclear weapons.

Both the US and Israel had confirmed that they had previously completely and utterly destroyed Nuclear Bombs. I really don't think that its the reason.

And also the control of the strait, only happened, because Israel/US attacked it.

> One thing I don't understand is why you thought it was important to amplify this particular incident by posting it here

Because this particular incident goes beyond religion. I have tried saying this 5 times now, my friend. If you feel like I have some religious qualms, obviously I have none. I was deeply emotionally troubled by this story during that time and I felt like hackernews's flagging of it was somewhat unjustful (which has been promptly unflagged by courtesy of dang) and the story deserved more attention (which it promptly has gotten), I have tried to respond to every comment as much as I can too. I am not hidden behind anything. I have tried to explain my thinking process multiple times.

> Your protestations notwithstanding and your portrayal of yourself as some kind of pacifist, the things you have posted and have written here demonstrate that you are biased towards one side

This is ironic because if I should be biased towards one side as an Hindu, it might be against anti-Islam but according to you I am biased with Islam. Let me please restate that I simply am not biased towards any particular religion.

I want to know something my friend, What will be the outcome of all of this?? All of this bloodshed, all of these cries and screams of innocents. From both sides. Israel might have an upper hand right now but the tides may change or they may not change.

Even then when history reflects on this, Do you feel like even an ounce of hesitation that history will reflect negatively if it don't end up on winning side (or even if it does)?

Matt stone is Jewish and In a sense of irony, it is south park which best reflects what I mean within their episode of Israel-Palestine war. Everyone is going to hate on the jews now because of these wars and there will be even more resentment within the region between arabs and jewish faith. And I hope that it goes without saying, that my criticism of Israeli regime doesn't equal an criticism of Jewish faith as a whole.

Within the eyes of the public, It is Israel & USA who have started the wars, who have caused the forever war to happen.

As a Jewish person, if I may ask you my friend, do you feel hate online nowadays? and if so, are you feeling like my message is directed with hate?

Because I know that it isn't you directly who is causing this child harm, It's the Israeli Regime and I want you to know, that your direct or indirect support to the current Israeli Regime is, in a similar fashion to what you might feel of a Muslim person being in support of their Muslim Regime.

I sincerely recommend watching that South park Episode from Matt Stone, my friend. I want you to know that I am against the current Iranian but also the Israeli regime and I am neither against the Israeli or Iranian innocent people. Both the former will be my enemy and both the latter will be my friend. These are my morals.

Have a nice day, my friend. I hope I can say the same to my Iranian friends too who have gone off the grid because of previously their own regime but now the Iran-war. I can be wrong, and I usually am, but right now, I stand by everything with what I have said.

(I would also like to state that Israeli people can have an internal rising against an fascist Israeli regime, similar to how my friends in US are fighting for what they believe to be right within peaceful protests. I hope that you can peacefully protest within your country and your country allows this right, because, I genuinely feel like all of these things and especially supporting the Israeli regime right now isn't/might not be reflected within the best of light)

I have an exam tomorrow, I have taken an hour to write this comment to explain how I feel of all this, Anyways, Wish me luck for my exam and have a nice day!

[burnt-resistor]

Ignoring the possibilities bots and engagement for disingenuous purposes, there are many people who benefit from the status quo, still other horrible people who support it, and still others who patronizingly declare certain topics must be censored for some fanciful, tone-deaf ideals that fail to meet the moment. All will be remembered how they failed to stop suffering, destruction, and calamity or possibly cheered it on. There is no right or left, only right and wrong and ultra-rich vs. everyone.

[Imustaskforhelp]

Well said, I agree with you. Some things go beyond politics and this is one of them and you're either on the right side of the history or wrong.