[zejn]

The problem with getting rid of oil is that cars currently in use will be usable even when over 20 years old, replacing them with EVs is expensive, and the good enough and economically accessible EVs are only now starting to get to market.

It's really hard to quickly replace millions of vehicles.

[lostlogin]

Raising the price of fuel will do wonders for solving that.

[throwawaytea]

In California my electricity to drive my Chevy Volt is more expensive than gasoline, if gasoline is less than $5 a gallon. So for basically the last 100k miles I've owned it, electricity was more expensive. The same goes for many plugin hybrids. Luxury EVs still win out because luxury sedans usually only get 25 mpg mixed max.

[lostlogin]

US fuel is so cheap compared to the rest of the world.

If my maths is correct, we are paying US$6.10 a gallon here in NZ.

[nicoburns]

In the UK the average price is (by my math) ~US$7.50

[jopsen]

In Denmark fuel is so expensive they sell it by litre :)

[fc417fc802]

I knew the CA grid was in a bad place but wow. What are you paying per kWh?

[throwawaytea]

$0.44 A first gen Volt takes 10.3kwh. It also uses electricity to cool the batteries while charging. If you leave it plugged in one a hot day it will cool the battery just for health overall but I'll ignore that. Then, add in the losses on the charge conversions.

It easily takes 11kwh to charge a Volt. It'll go about 35 miles in the summer on that charge, and more like 28 in the winter.

It also gets 35 mpg on gasoline, while providing free heat in the winter from the gas engine heat, and for most of the last few years was doing this for $3.50-$4 a gallon.

There are people on Southern California/San Diego that pay more. Over there people say the Prius Prime is WAY cheaper to operate on gas because it gets 50mpg gasoline.

I've even heard people running their home off gasoline because it's cheaper but that would require an impressive gas generator to do long term.

[fc417fc802]

That won't "solve" anything. Car prices will rise, many people can't afford the switch regardless, too much new EV demand could destabilize the grid in population centers, and throwing away vehicles that are already on the road by replacing them with newly manufactured ones is terrible from an emissions perspective.