[coxmi]

This is an insane claim:

> The entire point of civilization and society is that we are all "addicted" to technology and progress.

Technology is like much of material reality, in that we can think whatever the hell we like about its various forms, especially so if we’re surrounded by it.

[sunir]

It’s not insane. They are correct that is the point of civilization which carries information from generation to generation outside the oral tradition in a systematic organized reliable way.

[coxmi]

The point of civilisation, however loose that idea may be, if it’s anything at all, is determined by people.

Technology exists today in a way that feels like it could be defining its own path in a sense, but much like oral tradition, neither are large enough concepts to describe civilisation.

[sunir]

Technodeterminism is a common feeling in paradigm shifting moments. Don’t forget who is at the helm of the change.

[saltcured]

Or for the memetics fans out there, the point of people, if it's anything at all, is determined by civilization..