[john_strinlai]

most people are not willing to learn an entire new operating system for no reason, though. this might happen in tech-based companies, sure, but banks? accounting firms? ive never seen them offer macbooks.

this is also ignoring all of the critical software that is windows-only (e.g. quickbooks, solidworks, bespoke programs in banks and government).

point is: microsoft is not in "significant danger" today.

[jon-wood]

An increasing number of people are coming into the workplace never having used a Windows machine, or only occasionally having done so when it was absolutely necessary.

[john_strinlai]

>An increasing number of people are coming into the workplace never having used a Windows machine

i would love to see your numbers for this. what does "increasing percentage" mean? 1% -> 2%? 10% -> 20%?

i teach at a college level, in tech, and would estimate ~5% of incoming students have any experience with something other than windows on a pc, at best. outside of tech, i would estimate ~2%.

[pjmlp]

Maybe in US and related high salary countries where the Apple tax isn't a problem.

Rest of the world, depends pretty much even if an half work second hand PC is an option.

[kalleboo]

In the low salary countries, everyone is doing everything on phones, not PCs

[pjmlp]

There are enough folks with pirated Windows, which is what they use when a phone isn't enough.

[criddell]

My daughter works at a bank in Canada and she was issued a Macbook.

[john_strinlai]

surprising! what i know of canadian banks is admittedly little, so they might be moving faster than the banks i am familiar with. may i ask what department? do you know if it is managed by intune?

[criddell]

I don't know much. She isn't allowed to talk about any operational details. She just started there a few weeks ago.

And Canadian banks aren't known for moving fast. They are pretty conservative (at least the big chartered banks are).

[olyjohn]

Most people dont even use the operating system. They look for the apps menu, then click what they want to run. Most people can switch between OSes easier than you think because there really isn't that much difference in how they work on the surface.

[john_strinlai]

users are one component, but you are still ignoring/forgetting the rest.

user management, file management, security, windows-specific software, auditing requirements, required capital investment, lack of competent linux sysadmins compared to windows sysadmins, and so on.

[LtWorf]

> lack of competent linux sysadmins compared to windows sysadmins, and so on.

Wasn't this a microsoft marketing campaign like 20 years ago? Are we still on it?