[AlecSchueler]

> There might be more “biological advantage” nuance with people just starting their transition,

There might also be a similar advantage for AFAB women who have unusually higher testosterone. I don't get why they don't just do hormone brackets like they do with weight in boxing, and do away with gender based divisions entirely.

[0xy]

This is completely misinformed. Biological women and biological men at identical testosterone levels do not have the same grip strength or endurance attributes, because their bodies are fundamentally different particularly in bone size and muscular composition.

The average MTF and the average female have wildly different hand sizes, among many other physical differences.

[AlecSchueler]

How many "average women" are competing at the Olympics?

> particularly in bone size and muscular composition.

So group them by that where it's relevant. That doesn't change the fundamental argument I was making.

[0xy]

Seems like a waste of time when biological gender explains these differences aptly. There's also dozens of variables.

[razakel]

Endocrinology wouldn't be an entire specialism of medicine if things were that simple.