[bicx]

I recently started riding a motorcycle in the last 2 years. One of my favorite aspects of motorcycles are how easy it is to find a solid 30-year-old bike that still runs well and costs less than $5k. You can still buy parts for it… 30 _years_ later. Nothing else in my life shares that quality. I can continue repairing them and keep them running, which is a fun little hobby.

I really want to like the idea of electric motorcycles, but I have very low confidence that they would be built for the long term. Having to worry about software and security makes me even less excited.

[kjkjadksj]

Blows my mind how you can buy a new gas motorcycle for the price of an ebike. And the thing with the ebike is it is built nothing like a motorcycle. Feels like the cheapest chinese part bike with the cheapest drivetrain they could source. A motorcyle the parts are like heavy, milled metal, the thing seems solid and well built, well, you probably know what I mean about motorcycles. Seems like you get a lot for your $5k in comparison to ebike market. I guess that is true for road bikes that aren’t even electric too. Somehow those also cost as much as motorcycles. Why buy a campagnolo when you can buy a ducati?

[BizarroLand]

For $600 I bought a dual motor 1500w ebike that can haul my overweight self up a steep incline without pedalling. It tops out at 35mph. As long as I pedal along with it and stay at a sane speed I can ride 40-60 miles on a charge and still have enough juice for the last push uphill home.

It's not really an ebike, it's an e-moped at worst, and I'm glad that my locality doesn't have strong laws about it because it's fun, but I could also see how dangerous it could be in the hands of an amateur or thrill seeking rider.

[kjkjadksj]

People make a big gripe about the potential dangers of ebikes. But honestly they aren’t what my local neighborhood teenage hooligans are using. They have straight up electric dirtbikes. They are able to pop and hold a wheelie for long distances. These are no ordinary class regulated ebikes. I’m not seeing pedals. Not sure what make or model.