[tovej]

Social studies is a school subject, that's irrelevant.

You really think sociology is not a science then? Sociologists do way more rigorous statistics than physicists do. They have to, because physical sciences deal with deterministic objects, while social sciences deal with nondeterministic subjects.

[modo_mario]

>Sociologists do way more rigorous statistics than physicists do.

Whilst I agree that can be a science the amount of contradicting bs, ideologically driven stuff i've seen come out of one such department and their replication crisis kind of undercut their credibility on that front for me.

[tovej]

There's been similar cases in physical sciences. E.g. all the room temperature superconductor stuff a few years back, Avi Loeb claiming that an object hurtling thorugh the solar system was alien technology.

There's also more fraud in medicine or health sciences.

You make some very handwavy claims about ideology, do you mean economy by this? It's the most clearly politicized of the social sciences, qnd the one that has been most funded by political actors. This I can concede. But don't throw sociology under the bus just because economy has a bad rap.

[SanjayMehta]

Social Studies practitioners' surveys, for which they use statistics, depend heavily on the wording of the questionnaire.

https://youtu.be/ahgjEjJkZks

It's not a science.

[tovej]

You're aware that surveys are a very small part of sociology? And that sociologists are very aware of the issues with them. The gold standard is register data, but sometimes that's not available.

Still, in the countries it is, that's the data that's used. And then the analysis can be repeated in other countries.

[SanjayMehta]

Methinks the "sociologist" doth protest too much.

It's not a science. It may have some pretence at rigour, much like insecure economists talk about using calculus in their fairy tales.

[tovej]

That's not what that quote means.

I wouldn't normally point out things like that, but you are repeating points already made, and aren't responding to anything specific I wrote. If your argument is a "no you", then it's not an argument, it's just "pretending" to be one.