[throw310822]

There's a simple rule of thumb that seems obvious to me but is widely ignored: we should be highly skeptical of any finding that claims an agreements between facts and ethical values- or between what is and what we think should be. Reality is absolutely orthogonal to our values, which makes any coincidence between the two extremely suspicious.

[b00ty4breakfast]

>Reality is absolutely orthogonal to our values...

what? that's nonsense. Not everybody's values are the same, for one thing. Especially as society has become more and more international.

You should be equally skeptical of any result until proper evidence is presented and verified. Values should have no bearing either way on empirical truth-claims.

[throw310822]

Exactly, you're saying the exact same thing that I am. "Orthogonal" means independent, unrelated. This is why coincidence is very suspicious, because it's statistically very improbable.

[b00ty4breakfast]

you also said

>we should be highly skeptical of any finding that claims an agreements between facts and ethical values

And I'm saying that's silly because you should hold all claims in equal skepticism. Just because something contains an ideological basis does not, in itself, make it more or less correct.