[b00ty4breakfast]

I know most people don't take the concept of "selling out" seriously anymore, but the Ramones would not be sellouts for making Ramones merch. If they had turned into a hair metal band, where they would otherwise not make hair metal, just so they could sell a bunch of records, that would be selling out. Merely making money is not selling out

[boomboomsubban]

So something like getting Phil Spector to produce their record?

[b00ty4breakfast]

given the massive influence of 60s girl groups on the Ramones, I would say that getting one of the architects of that sound to produce their record is not selling out.

To stay on the "hair metal" example I gave, getting Mutt Lange circa Pyromania to produce a Ramones record would be selling out.

[relaxing]

You’re going to bring up Phil Spector and not mention the story of Spector threatening the band with a gun in the studio?