[petesergeant]

> desire for self-preservation and intrinsic motivation

I’d be curious about how you’re showing they lack either of those

[olalonde]

They don't try to prevent you from deleting them and they don't output anything unless prompted.

[samusiam]

"they don't output anything unless prompted"

Unprompted they're not unlike a human sleeping or in a coma. Those states don't preclude consciousness in other states.

[olalonde]

That's besides the point though.