[stinkbeetle]

That would be strange and misguided because I didn't talk about a consensus, I was talking about a mechanism for consensus. And consensus has existed many times on many issues now, and then.

[hunter-gatherer]

Right, the mechanism you mentioned, reason, never existed. That's how I read their comment anyways.

[stinkbeetle]

Yes I have noticed people get extremely emotional and upset at the suggestion that not everything in society may be monotonically improving.