[kerblang]

Engineering is two things:

1. Applied physics - Software is immediately disqualified. Symbols have no physics.

2. Ethics - Lives and livelihoods depend on you getting it right. Software people want to be disqualified because that stuff is so boring, but this is becoming a more serious issue with every passing day.

[eloisant]

That might vary by countries but in France with have an official "engineering degree" (diplome d'ingénieur) which is also a master's degree, and most software developers have this.

So most software developers in France are absolutely software engineers.

[zephen]

> Software is immediately disqualified. Symbols have no physics.

Many physical processes are controlled by software.

[galbar]

Software is applied mathematics, though

[kerblang]

And still not applied physics