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by rekrsiv 80 days ago
Quick question: Could they also be manipulating this message board's voting?
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If they could get people to install a mobile UI app that fetches instructions on what to up/down-vote, what to flag/vouch then they could and unlikely anyone would notice.

It is unlikely that enough people would check their up/down vote history, vouch and flag history and even then some would assume they fat-fingered such things.

Such a UI could also save and upload username and password to another site. Some people use the same creds on multiple sites.

Online community spam/brigading has been a normal occurrence since I've been running a message board 15 years ago. At least in Europe.

Seeing a sudden flood of new messages from low use accounts around elections or referendums is normal these days.

I think a larger question to ask is if could they also be manipulating the people themselves who are reading these message boards prior to this post which later impacts such message board's voting.
I take it as obvious, that all message boards are swarmed with bots of different actors, might it be China, Russia, US, Israel, Turkey
I just assume nothing is unmanipulated anymore.

Companies, trolls, states etc have it way to easy now

assume this is the case on every platform
Lol. If Israel could manipulate HN do you think so many anti-Israel posts would appear on the front page, and each mitigating or nuanced comment about Israel would be flagged so quickly? No, Israel does not control or manipulate HN.
Vast majority of post critical of Israel get flagged as soon as they get enough traction
Practically everything of political attention gets flagged, even if it is tech related.

There may well be a pro-Israel brigade going out of their way to move that along, but there is an equally rapid anti-Israel brigade. Nothing remains on the front page for long.

"Criticizing Israel" is always welcome on HN.

Posts that veer into overt anti-Semitic conspiracy theory get flagged because the mask slips too far and they reveal the game.

I saw many new accounts doing brazen propaganda.
Maybe there are lots more articles posted on HN criticising Israel, and only a fraction remains, because they win the up- and downvote war?
Not a single pro-Israel article, nor even any article that even mentions Israel neutrally, has ever reached the front page of HN in the entire history of HN.

So, no. Israel is not "winning the up- and downvote war" of HN.