[thenfcm]

Corporations are not in the role of bad cop, they exist to exploit us for profit and have many nasty tactics they can use to do that. To put the blame at the feet of individuals for that exploitation underestimated how much power they have.

The state can, at least in theory, be structured to serve rather than exploit us.

On top of that, the idea that individuals have the time, energy, or inclination to completely manage their own "reality" rather than relying on external authorities is daft imo. At some point we need to trust and rely on eachother and there are various entities beyond nation states that are set up specifically for that too.

[verisimi]

> Corporations are not in the role of bad cop, they exist to exploit us for profit and have many nasty tactics they can use to do that.

.. and governments are the same.

I believe we already live in a form of fascism where business and governments are aspects of the same entity.

> The state can, at least in theory, be structured to serve rather than exploit us.

I disagree. It can soak up believers energy though, forcing people against others who they have no personal issues with.

> On top of that, the idea that individuals have the time, energy, or inclination to completely manage their own "reality" rather than relying on external authorities is daft imo.

It might be daft in your opinion, but assuming the answers you want will be provided externally could be a working definition of insanity, imo.

[thenfcm]

The UK and US maybe. I'm not so sure about all governments around the world.

And so do you not trust health advice from the WHO? Do you do your own controlled trials instead?

[verisimi]

No, not the WHO, pharmaceutical companies or Bill Gates. These folk only have humanity's interests at heart, nothing to do with money and power. At all. You should absolutely trust your children to these folks.

[thenfcm]

So you're an antivaxxer? That makes a little more sense now.

[verisimi]

Way to (dis) engage with a discussion.