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by llmthrow0827 80 days ago
Seems like they're having trouble recruiting people to serve as America launches headlong into GWOT 2.0 with no plan. It makes sense that people aren't signing up: it's a very unpopular war that was started by assassinating leaders during peace talks and bombing an elementary school, and it's not one they're winning.

And it's also a war with no clear benefit to Americans, which Marco Rubio admitted they were dragged into by Israel.

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Yes, and still note, about using the word "winning". Jeannette Rankin: "You can no more win a war, than you can win an earthquake"
> You can no more win a war, than you can win an earthquake

This is quite clear for younger people who grew in an interconnected world. But some old folks (73 y.o., 79 y.o.) seem to live in the old world where winning, or an illusion of it, is still a thing.

this quote is from 1919 not 2019 by the way AFAIK, so there is nothing new under the sun
That word "Interconnected" is very important. As it's not an age thing, since many young folks may still think this way. It's an education thing. Uneducated/unconnected people are unable to appropriately interpret the world and the events that happen within it as they have not learned about or experienced similar situations and their outcomes/consequences.
They've had the best recruiting performance in 10+ years.
And the worst job market maybe ever for that age group?
I think smart people do NOT want to enlist while Trump is Commander in Chief and Hegseth is in charge of the Military. The way the crew of the USS Ford have been treated is despicable.
I get why you are saying that but historically those that enlisted ended up with better roles and less likely to serve in the infantry unless of course one wish to do that. This of course assumes the draft is actually utilized.
The draft is not going to happen, especially under Trump.
+ a war for another country
If the war keeps Trump in office, it has fulfilled its purpose and will be counted a win.

This is why I suspect that Israel might at least have encouragement from the U.S., direct or indirect.

Why would the war keep Trump in office? It is widely unpopular.
The word “unpopular” doesn’t exist in Trump’s vocabulary. The logic is that you don’t vote the Fraudster in Chief out of office during a war. And he desperately wants to stay in office. Ideally without being seen actively sabotaging elections.
> during peace talks

Well, I'm old enough to remember many "peace talks" go to eternity wit absolutely zero results. In many countries around the world. Just to create the argument.

Are you suggesting that it's a valid tactic to using peace talks to get your opponent to let their guard is down so you can attack them?
What's your therefore??