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by themafia 94 days ago
> that had an avowed goal of “death to America”.

31 million people just woke up and decided to hate America? Or.. was there a little more to that story?

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> death to America

These Iranians are so evil they want to kill even love:

https://fa-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%DA...

The hatred has been there since the 70s, at the very least. Watched a great video on Iran from Rick Steves filmed in 2009, and when he visited a mosque there was a large sign calling for the death of America and Israel.
Since the 1950s, and I wonder why that might be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

For anyone saying that's dumb: it's not even true. Iran real issue with the USA started with the iran-iraq war, where Iraq had the support of the US, and used US-made chemical weapons against civilians.
"death of America and Israel" These are states. A particular instance of cooperating individuals, with some overall vector of behavior that affects people elsewhere. Wishing for that to end is hate how exactly?

I would not mind, and I actually wish america and israel and russia and few other states end as they are today (not just a mild refactoring, end and split to 10s of smaller independent entities, that can cause a lot less harm individually) and end up with reduced externalities on the rest of the world, and lot less power to walk over rest of us.

I don't even mind calling it death to america or whatever, because it would be. So why not.

The fact that you can rationalize those statements is a pure example of western self sabotage. Please leave your doors unlocked at night, leave food out for the raccoons and always trust in the kindness of strangers. Especially those expressing a desire of death to your vector of behaviour
Self-sabotage is comming from the top. Not from people on the bottom, who still have some lingering mild beliefs about justice or a desire to treat other humans in non-violent ways.
You know history goes back before the 70’s right?
Maybe he means 70-79 CE
500+ years prior the Greeks and Iranians were going at it for half a century in the Greco-Persian Wars (499 BC - 449 BC).

That's, what, 2,000 years before the settlement of Jamestown by Europeans.

They just hate American freedom or what?