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by mpweiher 89 days ago
The world's firs trillion dollar and three trillion dollar company. Yes, completely insignificant.

The company that captures 60-70% of the global PC industry's profits. Definitely completely insignificant.

Apple has known the score internally for decades and is laughing that score all the way to the bank.
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bigyabai 89 days ago
None of that refutes anything that was said. macOS is a third-class citizen measured by market share, and the total sum of annual Mac profits is lower than what the iPad ecosystem makes in a year.

Consumers do not want the Mac. Datacenters don't want Apple Silicon. People want the iPhone, they want Airpods, but the M-series Macs have spent 5 years changing absolutely nothing.

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philistine 89 days ago
> and the total sum of annual Mac profits is lower than what the iPad ecosystem makes in a year.

So the company that makes between 50-60% of all profits in personal computers has created a market where it makes 100% of the profits, but albeit smaller than the whole PC market. That's terrrrible, what was Apple thinking!

Market share is far from everything when people live in poverty and do not have money to spend on good hardware and software. Apple makes stuff for affluent people, and then makes a ton of money from those rich folks. Making Apple the most valuable company in the history of humanity. Boy, that's a terrible place to be in!

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bigyabai 89 days ago
I shouldn't have to repeat myself; this still doesn't refute the claim that Apple has ceded the consumer compute market. Cheap Macs have flooded the used market for years, and people still gravitate towards plastic Wintel boxes and Chromebooks.

> Apple makes stuff for affluent people

is just repeating the original claim upthread:

>> they've priced the consumer/pro-sumer out of the market prettymuch and so B2B is the more sustainable paying population.

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philistine 88 days ago
The fact Apple maximizes for profits, and does not care about market share, does not mean it has ceded the market at all. It’s the exact contrary. Apple’s making money akin to the #2 position while being #4 and that’s an issue for you?

Once again you retreat to anecdata; how can you prove that used Mac laptops are not popular?

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swiftcoder 89 days ago
> Consumers do not want the Mac

Really? As far as I can tell, consumers mostly would love to use Macs, but aren't willing to pay the price of entry

> Datacenters don't want Apple Silicon

Do you know how many people salivate at the prospect of an M-based return of the Xserve?

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givinguflac 89 days ago
> but the M-series Macs have spent 5 years changing absolutely nothing.

You clearly keep up with tech news, kudos! I’ve seen no changes from other major pc manufacturers in response to Apple silicon, at all. /s

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