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It bothers me that everyone is laser focused on poor ATC staffing and working conditions (which is very valid, don't get me wrong). I think airport capacity should be fixed depending on ATC staffing. We need to have less air travel.

The way I think about it is this: substandard ATC staffing is just as bad as lacking jetways or damaged runways. When the airport can't land planes because of physical capacity constraints, flights get cancelled or delayed (literally happening today at LGA, flights are getting canceled because they're down one runway). The carriers need to eat the costs of forcing too much demand on ATCs.

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> The carriers need to eat the costs of forcing too much demand on ATCs.

Running ATC (and limiting flights if necessary) seems like the job of the government to me.

Why put this on the carriers?

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Put the costs on the carriers, not hand the job over to them.

[rekrsiv]

You are correct. Robustness requires a system that is working within it's tolerance margin, and stressing that inevitably leads to failure. A fault-tolerant system in this case would require a large amount of redundant humans. Unfortunately, the capitalist mindset prevents accepting any amount of "waste" as tolerable, which makes a robust system impossible to implement over time. Every system touched by a capitalist optimizer will eventually fail.

The idea that waste must be reduced is killing society, and this mindset must be addressed first before any other safety-critical system can be made reliable again.