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by 1234letshaveatw 85 days ago
That seems like an acceptable trade off to get some real world experience with what works and what doesn't with regards to massed drones and swarming. There is a lot we can learn in this conflict with relatively low stakes
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Stakes for whom?

>100 kids got murdered the first day of this "low stakes" war

Imagine the NATO reaction if on the very first day of Russo-Ukrainian war offensive is by Russia performing missiles bombing murdering 100 kids studying in Ukraine primary school.

Trump candid reaction to the Iranian school incident when asked by reporter was "I can live with that".

There were significant civilian casualties right from the start of the war in Ukraine, and several massacred villages.

Russian air defense shot down a civilian airliner mostly full of Dutch nationals and the response was just condemnation and tweaking the sanctions a bit.

My heartfelt sympathy to the MH17 victims and families, but the airplane was flying in the risky warzone. That does not discount the fact that it's an atrocious act by the Russian backed military.

However, to send missile to primary school killing hundreds of school girls on the very first day of the war, if intentionally is just pure evil.

It wasn't intentional; the building was used by the military years before. The US had really badly out-of-date intelligence and was negligent in updating it. There's absolutely no military benefit to bombing a girl's school.

Remember Hanlon's Razor, and remember how incompetent the Trump Administration has been in everything ever since he took office.

But 10~15 years outdated intelligence about an area considered a significant adversary that is penetrated by oodles of humint sources... hard to believe.

Israel has hit schools before knowing full well that it's a school (in war against Egypt). May well be policy.

Many of these kids would have been kids of IRGC. Likely that was the reason.

> There's absolutely no military benefit to bombing a girl's school.

Objection. For a hypothetical actor wanting to set the world economy on fire there might be a benefit of enraging the enemy to lower the risk of early deescalation.

We don't need to imagine. Hundreds of kids sheltered in Mariupol theater building were killed in one attack in the first weeks of the war.
Am I missing something?

The attack on the Iranian primary school (not makeshift sheltered building) is on the very first day of the war, not several weeks, months or years.

Not to downgrade the incident, but the Mariupol incident you mentioned probably happened in 2022 while the all out war started in 2014 [1],[2]. If you can refer and link to the particular incident it'll be helpful for verification.

[1] Siege of Mariupol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol

[2] Russo-Ukrainian war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_war

While the Ruissan invasion was ongoing from 2014, the 2022 full scale invasion is different both in scope and volume. It is viewed as its own global event and has it own huge Wikipedia article. Iran had also been attacked by the USA (and Israel) previously.

The theater was marked with huge inscription of "CHILDREN" on tarmac, in the pilots' native Russian. They killed them regardless.

Either way do you think that if it happened on day one instead of 3 weeks in the reaction would be any different?

Yes on day one people barely know what's happening, life goes on as usual.

After several weeks of bombardment and siege like was happened in Mariupol, children were already stop attending schools, moved to other schools, go to bunkers, live in makeshift shelters or migrate to different cities [1].

"The Geneva Conventions state that the parties to a conflict must do their best to protect civilians, which may include moving civilians and civilian objects under their control if they are close to military objectives." [1]

[1] Fact check: What do we know about the airstrike on a school in Iran?

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/03/16/fact-check-wha...

How many protesters were killed leading up to it?
How does bombing a school help protesters?
The USA
“Iranian kids may die... but that’s a prize I’m willing to pay.”
"I much prefer nuclear conflict"
Propose a nuclear free zone in the Middle East, propose a global nuclear free zone, propose to cooperate with other nuclear powers to disarm.

But that’s apparently not the real concern at all.