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by ezoe 79 days ago
> The native NVMe driver (nvmedisk.sys) replaces the legacy storage path that has routed NVMe commands through a SCSI translation layer since before NVMe SSDs existed.

What? What are Microsoft doing for a decade after NVMe available to consumer grade motherboard?

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Seriously, that was my thought too. Even if we were to stretch credibility and suggest that general consumers don't care about this sort of thing, they just released this for Windows Server in the past year?

Windows really is a toy of an OS. It continues to blow my mind that people want to use it as a server OS.

Because it offers VMS niceties that UNIX clones still doesn't do, and stuff like AD, SMB, without manually going through configuration files stored somewhere, that differ across UNIX flavours.

Although I do conceed UNIX has won the server room and Windows Servers are mostly about AD, SMB, IIS, Sharepoint, Dynamics, SQL Server.

Naturally some of those can be outsourced into Azure services that Microsoft will gladly provide.

And to run windows only apps like some embedded toolchains. Although that gives a motivation for us to move on to gcc because windows is annoying to be used on CI/CD and gcc is good enough compared to that other toolchain
Which VMS niceties does it offer?
Proper file locking, asynchronous operations across everything, ACL based security, proper ABI.

Not being an OS from C to C as the main programming model.

And then on top, multiple levels of sandboxing, including virtualization of drivers and kernel modules.

Ah and RDP is much nicer than X Windows or VNC.

Other than possibly proper ABI, and yes a tiny handful of file operations that could theoretically block not available through io_uring, like ioctl and splice, Linux has the rest.
In security? Not really, unless you are doing immutable deployments with rootless containers, no shell access, which at the end of the day isn't UNIX any longer.

And which Linux exactly? Plus unless you're doing C or C++, most likely aren't using those APIs.

Anyway, the differences of bare metal servers don't matter in the days of cloud where the actual nature of the kernel running alongside a type 1 hypervisor hardly matters to userspace.

Your fanboi attitude is very welcomed on /.

And billions spent and earned clearly shows where the moniker 'toy' doesn't apply.

BTW year of Linux Desktop when?

  What are Microsoft doing for a decade after NVMe available to consumer grade motherboard?
They were adding Copilot to everything, and implementing advertising tiles, and making sure it won't work without the appropriate TPM DRM, and forcing sign-in with a MS account to install it, and so on.

But they weren't ignoring NVMe entirely, they've got Rohan the intern working on it, and as soon as someone replies to his StackExchange questions he can start coding up the driver.

I am guessing that like ntfs it's a huge legacy spaghetty codebase that nobody understands and thus doesn't want to touch
I hope so. I prefer my evil to be ineffective.
there is so much to get angry about in the world at the moment.. I'm surprised that this one even registered with me.
They all feel like they're parts of a single expansive pattern.