[blemasle]

Does it occurs to someone that in this time of encryption backdoor and such, this is also a good starting point to another mass surveillance system ? Mandate US manufacturers to embed remote access for the use of the government, then as you've made those routers the only ones authorized on the us soil (let's not be foolish about that approval process, it will be a smoke screen) you basically have a backdoor to every citizen home.

Yes china routers are a liability, but free trade and open market ensure at least one thing that's essential : no single state has surveillance capability on its entire population

[Schlagbohrer]

This is why users need to have an american router, chinese router, and russian router, all wired in series. That way no one spy branch has full backdoor access through the chain ;-)

[M95D]

How would that work? Backdoors usually go the other way: malware calls home. How can the first router in the chain differentiate TLS backdoor traffic from the 3rd router (the one with access to your LAN) from legitimate traffic from LAN?

[stacktraceyo]

My sister in laws xfinity router / app has a new feature banner for “detecting motion in your house with WiFi for no additional cost”

I took a screenshot to share if anyone is interested

[dehrmann]

This has been shared on Hacker News before: https://github.com/francescopace/espectre

[nozzlegear]

Questions of mass surveillance aside, I always wonder how useful these things (motion detection when you're not home) actually are given how many American households have dogs and cats.

[ranger_danger]

How does having a dog or cat make this less useful? It detects motion, and it can still do that with pets.

I'm assuming you really meant "detect human motion", which I don't think is a solvable problem at this point in time, at least with high accuracy.

[autoexec]

I wouldn't be surprised if they can't tell the difference between a person and pet. Also wouldn't be surprised if they used that data to push pet food ads at you somewhere or just sold that info to a data broker.

[Night_Thastus]

IIRC most motion-sensing home devices are tuned to ignore pets, as best as they are able. They don't get it right 100% of the time though.

[passive]

Yes, that's what is happening here, except it goes beyond surveillance.

This is about full domestic control of the internet. For both ingress and egress.

Remember how Iran likely murdered thousands of protestors a few months ago, but we don't actually know? They want to be able to do that here.

[notabee]

The U.S. has done that kind of thing before, and that's probably why it's so paranoid about having the same kind of thing done to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-...