[tanseydavid]

> Remember when all the Waymos were confused by a power outage?

I remember.

Do you remember (before Waymo existed) what happened to traffic in SF anytime the power went out?

I remember. It was pretty much the identical situation.

Traffic goes to hell when the traffic lights stop working properly (without Waymo and also with Waymo).

[bluedel]

I think the point they're making is that the failure mode of a waymo and automated air traffic control could look the same from an angle, but would have very different consequences.

[alistairSH]

I think you missed the point. But sure, traffic goes to crap when the lights go out.