[analognoise]

About 50,000 Americans die a year due to lack of health insurance. Estimates are about 25k in 2006 years to 60-80k now.

Americans are more likely than any other nationality to see other Americans as bad, immoral: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2026/03/05/in-25-countr...

At least Americans have mostly come to realize the problem is other Americans.

It’s a little wild to run into someone willing to defend the place.

[mritterhoff]

You're moving the goalposts. There's tons we can do to improve US healthcare outcomes (we overspend compared to what we get [1]) by emulating what has succeeded in other countries. But that conversation and solution is different than "nobody has healthcare".

As to defense, I live here, as do the majority of the people I love and like. It's in my interest to have my country continue to exist as a sovereign nation with the ability to defend itself from foreign adversaries.

1. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health...

[analognoise]

Oh, so some people have healthcare, but it costs multiple times more than it does other places, and we "only" lose a Vietnam War's worth of Americans a year due to medical insurance. My bad, that's okay then. /s

Every time I'm like "My fellow Americans are ghouls" somebody reminds me it's OK to lose 50,000 of them a year as long as we have a big military and can provide Israel with enough weapons for their genocide.