[mixmastamyk]

Defeatism; alternatives don't have to be perfect to be useful. In other words, it's a journey, not a destination.

[whiterose1214]

Totally get what you're saying, and improving personal security can also be fun as a mental exercise. It's just there's a lot comments in this thread (hundreds) about how you can migrate EU to escape USG surveillance, which is just not realistic.

[mixmastamyk]

It's plenty realistic, just not perfect. Extradition is different than real time surveillance, for example.