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by arduanika 87 days ago
That's big of you, given that he showed no concern for anybody else's family. What's terrible is to spend your life ripping apart society.
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Personal responsibility has to enter the picture somewhere. If a family is ripped apart because a member is using OnlyFans then that's that family member bears responsibility. OnlyFans didn't invent pornography. And on the model side, it allows cutting out a whole industry of truly skeezy, immoral middlemen distributors.

I do dislike the effect OnlyFans has had on society but I think it's a symptom, not a cause.

Disagree. Personal responsibility should never be publicly discussed. It’s personal.
The family of the OF user is not the only family affected by this general decay. Indeed, when you normalize sex work, some families never even form. There's such a thing as a social fabric.

Libertarianism is willful ignorance, and taken this far, it's a brain disease.

> cutting out a whole industry of truly skeezy, immoral middlemen distributors

This argument only makes sense if you blindly model the amount of degrading dreck as a constant, unaffected by technology and opportunities. Again, brain disease.

Oh, and before OF, Radvinsky was facilitating child porn and bestiality. Were the children and animals being empowered, too? Should they have taken responsibility?

> Oh, and before OF, Radvinsky was facilitating child porn and bestiality.

I have no idea if that's true but it's irrelevant, those are illegal. Porn is not illegal. You may wish to make porn illegal but so far society has not agreed with you on that.

> Porn is not illegal.

Do you believe that there is anything that is legal yet immoral? If an industry is legal, is it automatically good to dedicate your life to growing and spreading it to all corners of society, so long as it makes you money? Do you think this guy left the world a better place?

Less polemically...

> I do dislike the effect OnlyFans has had on society but I think it's a symptom, not a cause.

What do you think is the underlying cause or causes?

Is this the "every sperm is sacred" argument?
You nailed it! The only way I could possible believe in any constraints on the free market is that I am Monty Python's cartoon of a Catholic. Well done.

There is no such thing as a healthy or unhealthy society. Only money. This guy made a lot of it. What a hero. All of us here on the orange site should aspire to his level of genius. Ha ha ha funny songs, silly walks.

How was he ripping families apart?
Lol, you did the meme. "Pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible".
Asking you to explain your position more thoroughly is making discourse impossible? Your dedication to communication is laudable.
He provided a way for many people to earn a living from the comfort of their homes and saved them from people that can exploit sexual workers (economically and worse).

If you find sexual work a despicable thing it's your right, but the people that are doing it through Onlyfans have it better than in other ways.

Does OnlyFans have an extensive anti-trafficking program to prevent one typical method of exploitation? If not, it's just proving a platform for the traffickers to make money from the comfort of a safe jurisdiction.