[_osud]

Yeah, but you also have Hungary who can decide to do things the same way they're done in Sweden and Finland.

[microtonal]

So don’t host your stuff in Hungary?

[icoder]

Yeah I think this basically answers this entire sub-thread

[_osud]

Hungary can send an EIO to France or Germany, and the consistent trend has been to reduce the ability of executing states to review these requests.

[krzyk]

Sure, those EIO will be held if Hungary starts applying EIO that it got (e.g. for former Ministry of Justice of Poland which awaits trail, he sits comfortably in Hungary).

Let's hope elections there will change Orban into something saner.

[foldr]

There’s a concerning trend of EIOs issued by Hungary being enforced in France and Germany? What would be an example of this?

[_osud]

This is the best I can give you off the top of my head, but look at which countries are the most active in eurojust :) https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/ar2020/data-annex

An LLM can probably find some better links though.

[foldr]

I think you might be missing the ‘concerning’ part. Which specific cases are concerning? I don’t find it inherently concerning that people can’t escape justice by crossing the Hungarian border, Bonnie and Clyde style.

[mongol]

In Hungary, sure. But each country has its own jurisdiction.

[_osud]

Yeah, way to not read the thread.

I'll repeat: EIO

[mongol]

So what? Can you point to a real example where this has been abused or are we discussing hypotheticals?

[_osud]

You can look at past ECHR decisions for countless cases of abuse by various national governments.

You can look at the history of EAW related litigation also, it'll probably prove most informative. Executing states used to constantly deny requests due to judicial review, rules were clarified to remove the possibility of judicial review by executing states.

[mongol]

I was expecting you might have a relevant example that applies to this discussion.