[graemep]

> Like, people say X11 is network transparent but that's not in practice true

Not done it for a while, but ssh into remote machine and start a GUI app used to work for me. It needs one setting in ssh config AFAIK.

> subjectively as a user most or all of my Linux GUI machines are using Wayland and there's no noticeable difference.

Not anymore. There used to be though, and i think it may have got a bad name by being rolled out by distros (especially as the default) before it was ready for most users. I can remember several issues, the worst was with screenshots.

I can accept that as I use a rolling release distro as a daily driver, so you expect some issues, but its not OK if those rough edges hit people using more mainstream distros (which I think they did)