[globular-toast]

Are you really going to argue that a good programming language is one where you can construct it character by character, by hand? Emacs has existed for decades and it runs basically anywhere. Nobody is programming in ed (well, apart from Dave Beazley[0]). With LLMs the world is finally catching up to the fact that programming isn't typing characters one by one. Lisp programmers have been at this for decades.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rou26TpUG0Y

[rowanG077]

I consider it essential for a programming language for people that it is easy to understand things by looking at things locally. Requiring/strongly encouraging extremely deep nesting is not conducive to that.

This is not some weird opinion I have. There is a reason "flat is better than nested" is part of the pretty popular zen of Python.