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We destroyed the nuclear capability of Iran last year during the 12 day war. Trump said so himself.

Now we're engaged in a full regional conflict to destroy Iran's nuclear capability that was destroyed last year. The same capability the Iranians were willing to give up via negotiations that were ongoing when the US and Israel took out the country's leadership in a decapitation strike which began the war.

Respectfully, this war virtually guarantees Iran will now develop nuclear weapons. The exact thing Trump thought shooting them would stop is going to come to fruition because of these actions. The exact thing that was barred by a fatwa since 2004.

How do you not see this?

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You want Iran to forever be a short step away from completing their project of making of nukes but never quite doing it because of its own internal decision and integrity at keeping its promises? No, that's naïve. They will obviously do it if they think they can get away with it. To be safe, they have to be physically prevented from doing it even if they want to.

Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 2000km limit on their missiles but when push came to shove, they changed their mind and shot one 4000km.

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For the vast majority of entire life Iran has been weeks away from having a nuke. I'm nearly 50. And yet you believe that they're now "two weeks away" because that's what politicians told you. Who's being naive here? How old are you?

> Proof you're wrong is that they had a self-imposed 2000km limit on their missiles but when push came to shove, they changed their mind and shot one 4000km.

The details of this attack are murky, it might not have even occurred. And given the penchant for the Trump administration to lie about this conflict on a daily basis I don't believe it either. Show me some radar tracks, hell, ANY EVIDENCE and I might consider it. Otherwise I'll consider it propaganda.

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"2 weeks away" means they have the technical capability do it soon if they decide to and can get away with it without their equipment being bombed. It obviously doesn't mean they will do it soon and it isn't literally 2 weeks. They can be delayed by international pressure or internal decisions, or whatever. So yeah, I do believe that, interpreted correctly instead of maliciously literally.

Same as the doomsday clock doesn't mean we'll have a nuclear war 2 minutes from now.

In my city, we've been "overdue for the big one" (earthquake) for my entire life. In never came but that doesn't mean it won't come in the near future so we still prepare for it.

OK, I have no evidence for those missiles. It doesn't really change things though. Iran clearly can change its mind if it wants. It's not the one country with permanently unwavering integrity that everyone can trust their lives to.