[thunky]

> Still not a novel thing in any meaningful way

Right. What you're saying is that barely anyone is doing truly novel work. 100% agree.

[coldtea]

Almost no e.g. web or app or enterprise or even game developer is doing any novel work, does that come as a surprise?

And is that fact supposed to be an argument in favor of how LLMs can do novel work and move the state of the art (which is what we're arguing about).

I mean, "LLMs can do novel work because: barely anyone is doing truly novel work" doesn't really compute as an argument.

[thunky]

What I'm saying is that LLMs don't have to do truly novel work in order to be useful. They are useful because the lion's share of all work is a variation on an existing theme (even if the creator may not realize it).