[varispeed]

You can have these apps on a separate device that lives in a drawer like paper documents would. We need to separate state from private life.

[debazel]

You would need to lug the device with you everywhere because BankID is used for all sort of things in Sweden. I couldn't even use a vending machine here without the BankID app.

[fc417fc802]

Why do you need MFA to use a vending machine? I thought the US was off its collective rocker but WTF is going on in Sweden?

[intrasight]

I am baffled that anyone on HN doesn't have an MFA device in their drawer.

[microtonal]

Many European banks do not replace them anymore once they break or run out of battery. Smartphones have become the default for MFA.

[intrasight]

Yes that's what I meant. An old smartphone is my device in my drawer.

[microtonal]

Ah, thank you for the clarification! Does not really work in all countries, e.g. here it is quite common at events to pay through a QR code and you need your banking app to do so.

[The_President]

Always the best way - radio off and inside a faraday pouch